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		<title>由：意美</title>
		<link>http://semwatch.org/2010/02/when-seo-encounter-ppc/#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>意美</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2010 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yakakey说的不错.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yakakey说的不错.</p>
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		<title>由：yakakey</title>
		<link>http://semwatch.org/2010/02/when-seo-encounter-ppc/#comment-1312</link>
		<dc:creator>yakakey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 09:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>感觉总体上有贬低seo的嫌疑，理论上ppc比seo更有技术含量，可是在现实操作中就未必了。
我觉得争论的很重要一点是部门的划分造成的，在企业中如果由一个部门统筹seo和ppc，相信两者会配合的很好。sem扩充词库，seo可以根据词库制造出大量合适的页面。而且这种高质量的landing page也是ppc喜爱的。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>感觉总体上有贬低seo的嫌疑，理论上ppc比seo更有技术含量，可是在现实操作中就未必了。<br />
我觉得争论的很重要一点是部门的划分造成的，在企业中如果由一个部门统筹seo和ppc，相信两者会配合的很好。sem扩充词库，seo可以根据词库制造出大量合适的页面。而且这种高质量的landing page也是ppc喜爱的。</p>
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		<title>由：butcherblow</title>
		<link>http://semwatch.org/2010/02/when-seo-encounter-ppc/#comment-1311</link>
		<dc:creator>butcherblow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2575&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@luffy&lt;/a&gt;, 非常好，我已经做好请假的准备捏！</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2575">@luffy</a>, 非常好，我已经做好请假的准备捏！</p>
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		<title>由：luffy</title>
		<link>http://semwatch.org/2010/02/when-seo-encounter-ppc/#comment-1310</link>
		<dc:creator>luffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2573&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@野果子&lt;/a&gt;, 争取这月能聚一次吧。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2573">@野果子</a>, 争取这月能聚一次吧。</p>
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		<title>由：ge gao</title>
		<link>http://semwatch.org/2010/02/when-seo-encounter-ppc/#comment-1309</link>
		<dc:creator>ge gao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-2571&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@andy&lt;/a&gt;,

广告系统和自然搜索系统，就搜索引擎的立场来说，是应该物理隔绝的，这样才能保证自然搜索的公正性----即使在为人诟病的百度，推广和快照也是完全独立的两个系统。

前面说了，在Google质量得分中，LandingPage本身是个FAIL/PASS的测试，或者过关，或者完蛋，基本没有分值，所以这一块不能提高质量得分。

你说的PPC关键词过多提高网页质量得分，我理解可能是说PPC关键词在页面上出现，相关性较好？正确实施的核心词通常应该具有较好的相关性，但长尾词则不一定了。关键词过多，实际上容易拉低帐户质量得分。所以在扩长尾的时候，单独建立AD GRP是有意义的，并且应该定期清理。

在我们的实际工作中，SEO和PPC的关键词发掘可能是一个重叠的区间，但两个渠道的效果分配上应该有效区分，这个不能靠感觉来，否则ROI没法算了。

SEO对PPC到底有没有用？应该是有用的。有用在于正确实施的SEO可以提高用户体验，和好的PPC目标达成一致。改善用户体验是整个营销工作的目标，不专属于某个渠道。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-2571">@andy</a>,</p>
<p>广告系统和自然搜索系统，就搜索引擎的立场来说，是应该物理隔绝的，这样才能保证自然搜索的公正性&#8212;-即使在为人诟病的百度，推广和快照也是完全独立的两个系统。</p>
<p>前面说了，在Google质量得分中，LandingPage本身是个FAIL/PASS的测试，或者过关，或者完蛋，基本没有分值，所以这一块不能提高质量得分。</p>
<p>你说的PPC关键词过多提高网页质量得分，我理解可能是说PPC关键词在页面上出现，相关性较好？正确实施的核心词通常应该具有较好的相关性，但长尾词则不一定了。关键词过多，实际上容易拉低帐户质量得分。所以在扩长尾的时候，单独建立AD GRP是有意义的，并且应该定期清理。</p>
<p>在我们的实际工作中，SEO和PPC的关键词发掘可能是一个重叠的区间，但两个渠道的效果分配上应该有效区分，这个不能靠感觉来，否则ROI没法算了。</p>
<p>SEO对PPC到底有没有用？应该是有用的。有用在于正确实施的SEO可以提高用户体验，和好的PPC目标达成一致。改善用户体验是整个营销工作的目标，不专属于某个渠道。</p>
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